Episode 272

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1st Dec 2025

Building an Internal Coaching Program: Lessons from HR Leader Josh Brumley

In this episode, host Kim Olver sits down with coach and human resources leader Josh Brumley for an honest, insightful conversation about building an internal coaching program, navigating the challenging shift from consultant to coach, and helping emerging supervisors lead with authenticity.

Josh, a graduate of the Academy of Choice’s 120-hour coaching program, shares how he used professional development funds to earn his certification and design a coaching initiative inside a university setting. He discusses the surprising challenges of transitioning from HR consultant to coach, the boundaries required to avoid slipping back into “just tell me what to do” consulting, and the delicate balance of honoring client goals while managing organizational expectations.

Kim and Josh explore the pitfalls of internal coaching—especially how quickly a program can be misunderstood as disciplinary—and why framing coaching as a growth investment is crucial. Josh also reflects on the difference between managerial responsibility and coaching support, the risks of being asked to “fix” employees, and how leaders often avoid the difficult conversations that are rightfully theirs to navigate.

Josh also highlights what he gained from the Academy of Choice program—from in-person instruction to mentorship hours—and how that foundation strengthened his coaching practice and leadership development approach.

This thoughtful conversation offers valuable insight for HR professionals, aspiring coaches, and leaders who want to bring coaching into their workplace while preserving integrity, clarity, and client-centered practice.

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About the Podcast

Life = Choices; Choices = Life
Making better choices for a better life
Life = Choices; Choices = Life is about learning to replace external control psychology with radical responsibility and appreciation so you can make better choices to create the life you want to have. Kim Olver is a leading expert in Choice Theory™ psychology and will share what she has gleaned from the legendary work of Dr. William Glasser, as well as sharing her unique perspective based on over 30 years of study and research.

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Kim Olver

Kim Olver's mission is to help people make better choices for a better life. She is a licensed clinical professional counselor, a nationally certified counselor and a board certified coach. She is a world renowned expert in Choice Theory™ , a highly sought after international speaker and an award-winning author. Her books include: Leveraging Diversity at Work with Sylvester Baugh (2006), Secrets of Happy Couples (2010), Choosing Me Now (2019) and A Choice Theory Guide to Relationships (2019). Kim is currently working on the forthcoming books, The Definitive Guide to Coaching and Radical Responsibility and Appreciation. Kim is the author of The Relationship Center blog; creator of Empowerment Parenting, a 25-hour parenting curriculum for court-mandated parents; and owner of Academy of Choice, a BCC (Board Certified Coach) Coaching Program. Kim worked five years as a counselor for schizophrenics in a community-based residential program, 17 years holding various positions with a specialized foster care agency, was Executive Director of Glasser Institute for Choice Theory for nine years and the Executive Director for William Glasser International for eight; and began her own company, Coaching for Excellence, in 2005. She is a model of what she teaches about taking responsibility for the things she can influence and control and finding appreciation for those things she can't. Kim believes radical responsibility and appreciation are the keys to a happy, peaceful, satisfying life.