In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing Dr. Shaunna Payne Gold, a wonderful gift in the field of DEIB. We discussed what being an ally really means, what the journey looks like for white people grappling with topics of diversity, how to care for oneself while doing this work and strategies for dealing with people and organizations that are resistors to the DEIB message. Shaunna also shared an important choice she made that had a significant positive impact on her life. Check out her website here: Home | Gold Enterprises, LLC (goldenterprisesllc.com). You can contact her via email at firstname.lastname@example.org or through LinkedIn or Instagram by searching for Gold Enterprises LLC or Shaunna Payne Gold. Watch for her new podcast, Unphased Unedited to be released on November 14, 2023. It will be sure to have some excellent content.