Episode 299

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2nd Jul 2026

How Self-Discovery Builds Emotional Intelligence | Dr. Beth DeAngelis (Part 1)

What if the greatest lessons in leadership, communication, and emotional intelligence don't come from a classroom, but from life's most difficult experiences?

In this first of a two-part conversation, Kim Olver welcomes emotional intelligence expert Dr. Beth DeAngelis to explore how personal challenges shape who we become and why curiosity may be one of the most important skills we can develop.

After the sudden loss of her husband, Beth found herself asking a question that would ultimately define her life's work: How do we use our emotions as information rather than allowing them to control us?

Together, Kim and Beth discuss:

  • Why emotional intelligence is built through lived experience
  • The difference between knowing something and truly living it
  • Why curiosity is a critical leadership skill
  • Building trust through authentic communication
  • How technology affects connection and presence
  • Developing a growth mindset in a rapidly changing world
  • Why flexibility may be one of today's most valuable life skills

Beth also shares an early look at her upcoming book, Love Scaled: How We Live with More Love at Work and Home, and introduces the powerful question that inspired it:

"How do we scale love?"

If you've ever wondered how difficult experiences can become your greatest teachers, this conversation is for you.

This is Part 1 of a two-part interview.

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About the Podcast

Life = Choices; Choices = Life
Practical Conversations About Leadership, Relationships, and Personal Responsibility Through Mental Freedom
Hosted by author, speaker, and coach Kim Olver, Life = Choices; Choices = Life explores how personal responsibility, emotional awareness, and intentional decision-making shape our relationships, leadership, and everyday lives.

Drawing on the principles of Choice Theory® and the framework of Mental Freedom®, Kim has thoughtful conversations with experts, educators, coaches, and leaders about how people can respond to life with greater clarity, connection, and purpose.

Kim Olver is the author of several books on relationships and personal growth, including Mental Freedom®: You Hold the Key, Choosing Me Now, and Secrets of Happy Couples.

Each episode offers practical insights on topics such as:

• Relationships and couples
• Parenting and family dynamics
• Leadership and workplace culture
• coaching and personal development
• Education and human behavior
• Emotional resilience and mental health
• Diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging

Through interviews and occasional solo reflections, Kim helps listeners understand how our thinking shapes our actions—and how choosing responsibility over blame can lead to healthier relationships, stronger leadership, and a greater sense of freedom.

If you're interested in personal growth, meaningful conversations, and learning how to respond to life with intention rather than reaction, this podcast offers ideas, tools, and perspectives you can apply right away.

Because ultimately,

Life equals choices… and choices equal life.

About your host

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Kim Olver

Kim Olver's mission is to help people make better choices for a better life. She is a licensed clinical professional counselor, a nationally certified counselor and a board certified coach. She is a world renowned expert in Choice Theory™ , a highly sought after international speaker and an award-winning author. Her books include: Leveraging Diversity at Work with Sylvester Baugh (2006), Secrets of Happy Couples (2010), Choosing Me Now (2019) and A Choice Theory Guide to Relationships (2019). Kim is currently working on the forthcoming books, The Definitive Guide to Coaching and Radical Responsibility and Appreciation. Kim is the author of The Relationship Center blog; creator of Empowerment Parenting, a 25-hour parenting curriculum for court-mandated parents; and owner of Academy of Choice, a BCC (Board Certified Coach) Coaching Program. Kim worked five years as a counselor for schizophrenics in a community-based residential program, 17 years holding various positions with a specialized foster care agency, was Executive Director of Glasser Institute for Choice Theory for nine years and the Executive Director for William Glasser International for eight; and began her own company, Coaching for Excellence, in 2005. She is a model of what she teaches about taking responsibility for the things she can influence and control and finding appreciation for those things she can't. Kim believes radical responsibility and appreciation are the keys to a happy, peaceful, satisfying life.